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morning, Tromaville.",{"start":101,"end":102,"speaker":28,"text":103},11.38,11.88,"It's me,",{"start":105,"end":106,"speaker":28,"text":107},12.06,12.76,"Zack Beins,",{"start":109,"end":110,"speaker":28,"text":111},12.82,14.88,"host of the Talkin' Troma podcast.",{"start":113,"end":114,"speaker":28,"text":115},15.66,18.56,"I'm so grateful that all of you could be here with me today",{"start":117,"end":118,"speaker":28,"text":119},18.9,22.08,"on April Fools.",{"start":121,"end":122,"speaker":28,"text":123},22.92,24.92,"There is a graphic there unless there's not.",{"start":125,"end":126,"speaker":28,"text":127},25.25,25.88,"If you're listening,",{"start":129,"end":130,"speaker":28,"text":131},26.1,26.66,"there's definitely",{"start":133,"end":134,"speaker":28,"text":135},26.82,29.08,"no graphic and please pay attention to the roads.",{"start":137,"end":138,"speaker":28,"text":139},30.22,30.74,"Today,",{"start":141,"end":142,"speaker":28,"text":143},31.54,34.78,"I was joined with one of 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